Thanks for all the comments people. I believe I have enough information to discuss with them at our next appointment....it sound, feel, smell and look like a scam.....I'll try to confront them with these points mentioned here! Also I might video record it so that they can't pressure me into buying anything! I believe if I have them on cam they can't deny it!

So where is this new site

38 years in business? NEVER HEARD OF THEM. Thousands and thousands of happy clients? NEVER HEARD OF THEM. Direct sales usually translates as "we don't want people to know to much about us because we are a company that lacks integrity". I have never seen or heard your advertisements. I have never heard ANY word of mouth recommendations about your company or products. That, sir, is a huge red flag. Nice try.

The company is a scam a complete scam their office in Mississauga is located at 2191 dunwin drive their training is pretty dam convincing ill give them that some of the stuff they say is very true but also mix it up with a bunch of BS also when your in training they swear too much i mean one is fine but the whole training "PROS" also very disrespectful that Natasha [***] shes smart and knows how to persuade people she knows how to work them lips :) sadly the way i look at it they are just trying to stay alive and their post is still up so come on i mean how many employees did they say they needed ??? Good luck people man i wish i could of recorded it im currently working some where else with a stable rate and things are looking great Just remember that these people have been doing this for years their living is to persuade people and they know what they want and they'll do anything to get it with or with out you or through you ...desperation is the worst enemy of a company

exact same here...

"Michelle" just called.

WWI:  "Is Mr. (had name) at home"?Me:     "No he is not."WWI:  "Thank-you." Click, she hung up.I called back and asked if they were water testing. Yes they were and wanted to offer a gift. I told them to take me off their caller list. The man asked if I wanted to proceed so I can get the gift. I told him we could not proceed as we had not even started and again told him to take me off the list.What is wrong with these people?