This is what Kriger and Espoir Bridge won't tell you


"Hello All,
You do not need course work or additional degrees, costing thousands of dollars, in order to break into clinical monitoring. A four-year degree in anything science related will be fine. I have a Ph.D. and wanted to get away from the bench but still get 'credit' for having a higher scientific education. I applied online at the big job websites and called for advice to local research organizations until I got a call back from the HR department of one of the largest CROs in the world. I took a lower-paying job as a trial assistant in exchange for the large company training me on everything I needed to know. I was promoted in ~half the usual time to the CRA role, get multple pay increases per year as well as bonuses, and have been monitoring for nearly 2 years. The key is applying to a large company that can afford the money to train you, avoid signing contracts, and starting at the bottom position. Don't tell the recruiter you 'love to travel', just be clear that you have no problem traveling 3-4 days/wk. You are not applying to be a professional tourist. Read industry magazines to learn the acronyms (CRA, CRO, IRB, DCF, IND, etc). This industry is doing very well and expansion at the large CROs is booming."

this is from (not mine comment)

http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/clinical-rese ... 784100?myst=150

I noticed something strange was going on when I received VERY similar emails from both Kriger and EspoirBridge.  The funny thing was, I applied to the job through EspoirBridge first, then I got to looking around for CRA certification courses and found Kriger.  Even without receiving recommendations from either company, I knew they were related by the way you are asked to verify your email address.  I started to investigate and found this wonderful thread!  Phew!  Thank goodness I didn't have enough money to register for the CRA course, yet!  Thanks to everyone for your comments!

I agree with ?me?, where are other 11 pages of this forum, what's going on? Where are all the comments by J?I am in the same boat with dozens (or hundreds?) of job seekers who was asked to call and got ?mail box is full message?. Honestly I didn?t expect much after browsing through Cereprotec web-site...Few little things also alerted me like the fact that the other side of the line sounded quiet and not busy as I would expect. As well as Sandra?s last name was spelled differently in her e-mail address and electronic signature (Stewart/Stewert). Not very professional, isn?t it?I have read all the previous comments of this forum up to the end of the day on Monday, and I just wanted to express my respect to J. He or She seems to be a highly educated and knowledgeable person, with excellent logic and judgement, very polite and straight to the point (despite of all that personal offences that his opponents were using to shut him/her up, ex. ?go and find girl friend?). I believe comments like this are highly inappropriate and not related to the subject of discussion in any way. Thank you J, it?s mostly because of your input that I have read through all the discussion, and thank you for providing with valuable links and information.As for Mr. Krieger behaviour I am shocked that a head of large educational and research organisation, a writer, can be so rude and threatening. By the way somebody mentioned on this web-site or indeed.com, that 3 months of internship with Krieger CRO after graduation from Krieger institute can be qualified as 6 months of industry experience? ?How this could be justified? Could anybody explain? Thank you.

today I had an interview and I don't think they will call me again. why? because  they were not impressed by the paper from Kriger, they asked me specifically if I REALLY HAD CONTACT WITH PATIENTS. and it is not the  first time I hear this question

J, I got several calls after I completed the course.The problem is that most companies ask for at least 1-2 years of experience and Kriger gives you only 6 months. It is a good start but it may not be enough (they need someone with a lot of experience since you are responsible for volunteers' safety) so what you can do is to work for 6 months in a different position, for example as Clinical Research Coordinator.

Shame on this organization.  I have received the same emails and promises, after reading these notes, I anticipate that I will get a pumped up email only to dumped later.  Does anyone have any suggestions how/where to find clinical research jobs?

ali