I am not the type to take the time to post anything anywhere, but I find this important if not amusing.  I recently came across EB while looking for other opportunities within industry.  After sending my CV to what seemed like a legitimate recruitment agency, my email box has started to fill with the same spam as mentioned above including the contact from Clinqua even the same HR rep.  Something did not smell right, so I did some looking and my next email is going to be to a friend of mine in the San Diego Attorney General?s office.  Not that much can be done, but maybe a call to the "HR Manager" will make this operation worry a little.     A few points of interest for the sake of helping others:*For what it is worth, I am a hiring manager within industry, I am certified CCRA, and I have some years of experience.  The first email from EB implied that I needed experience, certification, and more education (I have an MS/MBA).  First Flag  *I have outsourced to CROs for clinical studies; however, I have never heard of Clinqua until now.  After looking around on the internet, I cannot say for sure if the name Clinqua is a real CRO that somehow was drug into this, but it would seem that I would have heard of them before as my business address is XXXX La Jolla Village drive.  -Their office building should be down the street from mine.  Funny, I have never heard of a vendor that I should be going to lunch with.  Shame on their BD staff.  *To answer a few questions I have seen, yes, you can get hired as a CRA without a certification (I have done it).  It is not as easy, but I would hire an experienced CRA with a good resume over a less experienced CRA with all the degrees and certifications out there (experience = job).  The employer should agree to pay for any certification or at least assist with paying for it.  Look to ACRA and SOCRA for resources.  Other sources are out there, but do get hooked into being a victim.  Best of Luck

This is what Kriger and Espoir Bridge won't tell you


"Hello All,
You do not need course work or additional degrees, costing thousands of dollars, in order to break into clinical monitoring. A four-year degree in anything science related will be fine. I have a Ph.D. and wanted to get away from the bench but still get 'credit' for having a higher scientific education. I applied online at the big job websites and called for advice to local research organizations until I got a call back from the HR department of one of the largest CROs in the world. I took a lower-paying job as a trial assistant in exchange for the large company training me on everything I needed to know. I was promoted in ~half the usual time to the CRA role, get multple pay increases per year as well as bonuses, and have been monitoring for nearly 2 years. The key is applying to a large company that can afford the money to train you, avoid signing contracts, and starting at the bottom position. Don't tell the recruiter you 'love to travel', just be clear that you have no problem traveling 3-4 days/wk. You are not applying to be a professional tourist. Read industry magazines to learn the acronyms (CRA, CRO, IRB, DCF, IND, etc). This industry is doing very well and expansion at the large CROs is booming."

this is from (not mine comment)

http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/clinical-rese ... 784100?myst=150

Why would y'all mention these concerns on an obscure blog?  Why not with BBB or a state or fed attorny general? I checked Kriger out with Better Business Bureau and found no unresolved problems.  And the 3 resolved problems were all billing not content or ethics.  I'm not defending Kriger aka EspoirBridge aka IBPA aka Clinqua aka whatever (although the training they give is true if out-of-date) but if you have proof (I don't) then take it to the authorities so that fplks like me don't fall for this.By the way "Someone with a brain", you DO have to pay for a job - college or training (like KRC offers).

I too took the Kriger CRA course and found it quite informational. It's just landing a job as entry level that's so dang hard. Yet, how do you get the experience w/o 1st starting at the entry level!!! Someone I talked to at Espoir Bridge actually had Ms. Stewart at Cereprotec call me. I emailed/faxed all they needed and was sent via email the Protocol for the Phase-IIa trials for Cereprotex. Then, have sent a few messages to them and now have heard nothing for 2 years! I think funding is the main issue here.

So now I have read all of the comments about the fact that most of these companies are scams and I am wonder what probably others are... WHERE CAN I GET TRAINING TO BE A CRA??? I have applied for positions that ask for what seems like minimal experience, and no response. I find tons of openings on Medzilla for CRA's, but I must be a total loser, because I don't get even a "you suck, but thank you for applying" email. I have been a RN for 20 yrs, have my BSN and did about a years work as a CRA 12 yrs ago for a tiny research institute.
I would love to find a job as a CRA and work my way up to being home based and have a stable job! I know it won't happen over night, but I need help finding out how to start the entire process. I keep hitting brick walls because no one wants to hire and train you, and no one wants someone without experience!! It's a catch 22, which is so frustrating I want to scream!!

Can anyone shed some light on what to do? Thank you for anything you have to offer!
Gina

I've been 'in touch' with espoirbridge. They emailed me a job listing for 'cereprotec'. I was pretty uninspired by the cereprotec website. I was less than impressed by the fact that I couldn't even find an address for the company. A call to espoirbridge yields only a busy signal. We're either dealing with a scam, or a severe lack of professionalism. I'm pissed off either way. Buncha time burglars.