I noticed that more than one discussion forum on the subject of espoirbridge, cereprotec, kriger, etc, has mysteriously disappeared. A discussion on indeed.com (http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/clinical-rese ... c137e1e737d4204)disappeared. Several pages of this discussion also disappeared.I'd like to invite people to continue the talk at http://rantawaythoseblues.blogspot.com/I created the space so that this discussion can continue, even if this particular thread is taken down. Please bookmark it!Hope to hear more from all of you.

This is what Kriger and Espoir Bridge won't tell you


"Hello All,
You do not need course work or additional degrees, costing thousands of dollars, in order to break into clinical monitoring. A four-year degree in anything science related will be fine. I have a Ph.D. and wanted to get away from the bench but still get 'credit' for having a higher scientific education. I applied online at the big job websites and called for advice to local research organizations until I got a call back from the HR department of one of the largest CROs in the world. I took a lower-paying job as a trial assistant in exchange for the large company training me on everything I needed to know. I was promoted in ~half the usual time to the CRA role, get multple pay increases per year as well as bonuses, and have been monitoring for nearly 2 years. The key is applying to a large company that can afford the money to train you, avoid signing contracts, and starting at the bottom position. Don't tell the recruiter you 'love to travel', just be clear that you have no problem traveling 3-4 days/wk. You are not applying to be a professional tourist. Read industry magazines to learn the acronyms (CRA, CRO, IRB, DCF, IND, etc). This industry is doing very well and expansion at the large CROs is booming."

this is from (not mine comment)

http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/clinical-rese ... 784100?myst=150

People should also be wary of the following:
http://medicaldevicesnews.com/
http://regulatoryaffairstoday.com/

These websites are very similar with some links to a "real" website concerning industry news, however other links are CLEARLY slanted toward Kriger, Cereprotex, ClinProxy, ClinQua, etc. An independant repubitable biotech news site would not try to drive its viewers toward certain companies, it would simply present jobs and related information. For a "real" website check out http://www.biospace.com/

I did a search for Linkedin of Clinproxy and only two people showed up...very suspicious for a worldwide company.

Please dont fall for these antics...I have worked for clinical organizations  for 10 years at Merck, Hoffman, to name a few...If a company is interested they will provide you with training for free. Or at least assist you finanically for any "specialized" training. I agree one should check out www.socra.org, www.acrpnet.org, and www.scdm.org for getting a start to getting into the clinical industry or further advancement. Not this Kriger scam.

congratulations dude, I've read the comments and I tried to post one but I need password for it...1. A forum is for people to share their opinions with a specific company, both positive and negative. This negative comment does not have to be approved by a corporate [***] since it is not addressed to him and it is not his corporate website. If I say a took a specific CRA course and I did not like it since it was full with mistakes, redundant, without any logic and rationale and of very very poor  quality I just express an opinion. And it helps even the company, who may want to improve the quality of the course.2. If someone posts negative comments about a company, this reflects personal experience, and this is the very reason why people use forums and blogs. Of course, we assume honest individuals do that, not people from other companies who try to denigrate other companies (which I don't think it happens very often, only paranoid and very stupid people belive in "hidden agendas" and conspiration theories). But what such very stupid people don't realize is that by becoming histerical and behaving in a stalinist manner does not help, actually on the contrary.

Hello,

My name is Bruce Kriger. If anyone has any concerns regarding our business www.kriger.com or any of our partner companies please contact me directly. I own 25% of Cereprotec stock and is ready to answer the questions regarding this company as well.

Please stop immediately trashing my name. Whatever you think of me or my business it is not ethical or legal to continue your “campaign” after I have provided my full contact information.

Sincerely,

Bruce Kriger, CEO
Kriger Research
Group International

110 Main Street # 5
Main East Court
Huntsville, Ontario, P1H1K6
Phone: (705) 635-1122
Fax: (705) 635-9292
bruce @ kriger.ca
www.kriger.com

This is what I got the Espoir Bridge. These guys are really idiots, they keep sending me the same e-mail regarding registering for Kriger's CRA even if I already told them I completed the course. Gues how many times they sent this e-mail? At least 15-20 times.Just read how they do advertising for Kriger. By the way, the last phrase is really STUPID.  Hello ,I hope you are doing well. Please use this e-mail:info @ espoirbridge.com  - I review it more frequently.Let me tell you more about getting a job of clinical researchassociate just to make sure we are on the same page.It is extremely difficult to talk to employer if the candidatesdon't have clinical research experience and/or training.If you are determined to pursue with CRA career path, I would strongly recommend you to obtain GCP / CRA certificatethrough  training and certification  program, if you didn't do it in the past. There are many clinical research associate programs available on the internet.Very few of them include practical part.If you ask me, I'd recommend KRGI Training program: http://www.krgi.org/training/and this is because:1. It is, apperently, the largest CRA training institution in the world 2. They have an internship  included in the program that adds up toyour CRA experience and they provide job references.3. They are recognised by The International BiopharmaceuticalAssociation and tuition fees are partialy covered through thisorganization. Here is an application form:http://www.ibpassociation.org/app_forms/uk_form.php(If you decide to apply - use our institution ref number - "EspoirBridge - code CR12" as areferring recruiter, this will make it more plausible that you get a goodpercentage of coverage.)I have placed many of KRGI grads, so it is natural for me to be astrong proponent of this program.Usually  this training takes  6-8 weeks to complete. But it is totalyself-paced program, and they issue a password for 3 months, thatcan be extended later.This is on-line training, and there is nothing wrong with that.