yes, this is what I was thinking too. no one invited kriger here or on other forums. we should start by sharing e-mail addresses or ids for yahoo messenger for the beginning.

it is very frustrating to enter on forums where you are supposed to get info and to deal with people who just come to spy and intimidate people. if they have so much time, they should use it in a clever way. e.g. they should focus on providing good quality courses (without hundreds or even thousands of mistakes!)and not on spying people on forums. or at least get a life.

as long as the courses are of very poor quality and therefore the certificate and the letter of reference) are not accepted my anyone the problem will persist. but I really don't think he gets the idea

This is what I got the Espoir Bridge. These guys are really idiots, they keep sending me the same e-mail regarding registering for Kriger's CRA even if I already told them I completed the course. Gues how many times they sent this e-mail? At least 15-20 times.Just read how they do advertising for Kriger. By the way, the last phrase is really STUPID.  Hello ,I hope you are doing well. Please use this e-mail:info @ espoirbridge.com  - I review it more frequently.Let me tell you more about getting a job of clinical researchassociate just to make sure we are on the same page.It is extremely difficult to talk to employer if the candidatesdon't have clinical research experience and/or training.If you are determined to pursue with CRA career path, I would strongly recommend you to obtain GCP / CRA certificatethrough  training and certification  program, if you didn't do it in the past. There are many clinical research associate programs available on the internet.Very few of them include practical part.If you ask me, I'd recommend KRGI Training program: http://www.krgi.org/training/and this is because:1. It is, apperently, the largest CRA training institution in the world 2. They have an internship  included in the program that adds up toyour CRA experience and they provide job references.3. They are recognised by The International BiopharmaceuticalAssociation and tuition fees are partialy covered through thisorganization. Here is an application form:http://www.ibpassociation.org/app_forms/uk_form.php(If you decide to apply - use our institution ref number - "EspoirBridge - code CR12" as areferring recruiter, this will make it more plausible that you get a goodpercentage of coverage.)I have placed many of KRGI grads, so it is natural for me to be astrong proponent of this program.Usually  this training takes  6-8 weeks to complete. But it is totalyself-paced program, and they issue a password for 3 months, thatcan be extended later.This is on-line training, and there is nothing wrong with that.

congratulations dude, I've read the comments and I tried to post one but I need password for it...1. A forum is for people to share their opinions with a specific company, both positive and negative. This negative comment does not have to be approved by a corporate b*****d since it is not addressed to him and it is not his corporate website. If I say a took a specific CRA course and I did not like it since it was full with mistakes, redundant, without any logic and rationale and of very very poor  quality I just express an opinion. And it helps even the company, who may want to improve the quality of the course.2. If someone posts negative comments about a company, this reflects personal experience, and this is the very reason why people use forums and blogs. Of course, we assume honest individuals do that, not people from other companies who try to denigrate other companies (which I don't think it happens very often, only paranoid and very stupid people belive in "hidden agendas" and conspiration theories). But what such very stupid people don't realize is that by becoming histerical and behaving in a stalinist manner does not help, actually on the contrary.

I have received dubious job offers from Cereprotec, Biorole, Pharmalef, EspoirBrigde and Clinqua. They all belong to Krieger research and eventually refer you to go take a course with them. They don't care if you already have a good and solid education or experience in the field. It is strange that for all of these companies, after they ask you to call them to discuss the posiytion or for a phone interview, not even a single soul is in these so-called "reputable" companies to take your call; and no one ever call you back. Espoirbridge even referred me to the IBPA which strangely offered me a scholarship that can only be used at Krieger for the CRA certificate program. I read another forum on indeed and found that Krieger research and its associates are all dupes! I took the Clinical Research Program at George Washington, which is more expensive, but very much worth it. Besides you can't go wrong with an established institution. Forget about Krieger, Biorole, Pharmalef, Espoirbridge, Cereprotec, Clinqua and the so many other aliases that this phony people can adopt.
Good luck!

I agree with “me”, where are other 11 pages of this forum, what's going on? Where are all the comments by J?
I am in the same boat with dozens (or hundreds?) of job seekers who was asked to call and got “mail box is full message”. Honestly I didn’t expect much after browsing through Cereprotec web-site...
Few little things also alerted me like the fact that the other side of the line sounded quiet and not busy as I would expect. As well as Sandra’s last name was spelled differently in her e-mail address and electronic signature (Stewart/Stewert). Not very professional, isn’t it?
I have read all the previous comments of this forum up to the end of the day on Monday, and I just wanted to express my respect to J. He or She seems to be a highly educated and knowledgeable person, with excellent logic and judgement, very polite and straight to the point (despite of all that personal offences that his opponents were using to shut him/her up, ex. “go and find girl friend”). I believe comments like this are highly inappropriate and not related to the subject of discussion in any way. Thank you J, it’s mostly because of your input that I have read through all the discussion, and thank you for providing with valuable links and information.
As for Mr. Krieger behaviour I am shocked that a head of large educational and research organisation, a writer, can be so rude and threatening. By the way somebody mentioned on this web-site or indeed.com, that 3 months of internship with Krieger CRO after graduation from Krieger institute can be qualified as 6 months of industry experience?  How this could be justified? Could anybody explain? Thank you.

I am just trying to send out a message about how Kriger institute and/or Espoir bridge consultants are a big bogus... They have material ( I am not even sure which is up to date)on line and by making you pay $1600, they grant you access to that material.

They promise resume writing , job placement, towards that they send you couple of generally advertised positions..

You must be wondering why this is bogus... B'caz at the end of each chapter there will be a question, you do research and send in the answer, immediately followed by your answer they send you another answer (auto reply mode) and they never correct your answer not they give you feed back..
It gets better listen to this, there are topics like CRF (Clinical report forms) and absolutely what they have what in reality they look like are completely different...

I am so desperate for my money that  I even want to go to court and get my money back..

But at least if you are in the market for a good  CRA certification program, all I can advise you is not to go with Kriger and don't get cheated by their website as i did