yep, these creeps called me.
just blocked their #

These SOB's have been calling me too. They call from different numbers. Both numbers listed in previous complaint. Report them to CRTC at the  below listed  website :http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/welcome.htm

Me again, and again another call.  This is a long response so I hope I can get it all in here.  This time when I got the same call I checked a little further.  This law firm is operated by Deanna Lynn Natale.  She is licensed to practice law.  Search for her at the Law Society of Upper Canada:

http://www1.lsuc.on.ca/LawyerParalegalDirectory/loadSearchPage.do

Contacting the Law Society (416) 947-3315) confirmed that Deanna Lynn Natale is a licensed attorney who is only allowed to practice law in Ontario (so people outside of Ontario need not read further).  However, I asked if there were any complaints about this Deanna Lynn Natale, and after a rather loud "sigh", the person confirmed that there were complaints, but what the complaints were about was confidential.  The Law Society will open a complaint for you, and keep it confidential if you wish to proceed (which I suggest you do - it's free and you won't have to do very much).  Technically speaking, by phoning you this Deanna Lynn Natale law firm is not breaking the law.  Although ethically, the Law Society may have problems what they are doing.  So file a complaint!

Getting you to give out your personal information is not illegal either.  What they are allegedly using it for is illegal, but very hard to prove.  Mostly because many people embarrassed that they owe money to the point where a lawyer or collection agent has called and they want to clear it up quickly, or are so disorganized that they aren't entirely sure that they owe money and pay the $100 or $150 without asking questions.  So it is up to you to make sure you're not being scammed.

So I called the Natale law firm, quoted the reference number, and they asked me my name.  I did not give them my name, instead I said, "Well you called me twice in the last month and apparently sent documents to my home so you should know that."  (I never got any documents by the way - which would be hand delivered by a low-level paralegal or private investigator if it were real "important" legal documents). I then asked what collection agency they represent and if they could send me the invoices.  The woman was unable to respond and after several more of my questions she promptly hung up on me.  I called back several times and did not say anything during any call.  On each occasion, 4 different people answered the phone.  2 men, 2 women.  So it's apparent to me that this Deanna Lynn Natale has several (4 at least) people fielding calls like this.  Google her name and number and you'll see that she's been accused of allegedly sending out false collection letters and getting people to pay up on debts that don't exist. Is this a scam?  How paranoid should you be?  99%

1) Do not give your name EVER!  If they were collecting for a real debt you owe they would already know your name and everything about you.  As someone who has owed money, and been owed money, and been to court several times (as the good guy) I can tell you it's very, very easy to track people down.  A reputable lawyer representing a reputable company would not call you on a matter like this - ever.  If you were being sued they would hand deliver Statement of Claim (it is required by law that the Plaintiff prove you are aware of the lawsuit before a judge or mediator would ever hear the case).  Other important legal documents would also be hand delivered.  Lawyer's letters would be sent to you via registered letter or a courier - something you have to sign for.  You are not legally obliged to respond to a collection agency.  They are ruthless though, so you're encouraged to respond to a legit collection agent to avoid a negative credit report.  But there are several ways to see if the collection is real (read on).

2) Ask them to send a copy of the contract of the debt you took on.  If it's real, you'll get it and it will bear your signature (don't give them an address or fax number or any identifying information and use call block --*67-- when you do call them back).  Real collection agencies / lawyers WILL do everything they can to prove you owe the money without hesitation.

3) If the collection call is false (and you'll know right away) then ask these losers to remove your telephone number from their database.  Here's the trick, don't give them your number.  :)  The reference number that you were given contains an entire LIST of phone numbers, yours included.  So you'll be doing a lot of people a solid by doing that.  You can remind them that THEY called YOU and gave YOU a reference number so they should already know that information.  They will probably hang up on you.  That's what they did to me.

Good luck, and stay private!

I keep getting calls every other day from this phone number and they keep leaving messages for "JOHN ALBERT" and asking me or whomever JOHN ALBERT is to call them back at some Natalie Law Firm.  PLEASE STOP CALLING ME!

Hi Everyone,Here are some helpful hints in dealing with this company:If you are receiving calls from this number:1. Do not reply or acknowledge them2. Contact the following resourcesFile Complaints with:Law Society of Upper Canada- File a direct complaint againsthttp://www.lsuc.on.ca/public/a/complaints/Natale Law Firmc/o Deanna Natale1490 Denison RoadSuite 100Markham ON(905) 413-85452.Ontario Privacy CommissionerFile a complaint against:http://www.ipc.on.ca/english/Resources/IPC-Co ... Summary/?id=668Global International Inc (Global Credit and Collections)1490 Denison Street,Markham, ONL3R-9T7905-479-22223. Minister of Consumer Affairs- file a complaint Both firms for they are one and the same.http://www.sse.gov.on.ca/mcs/en/Pages/Complaint_Steps_to_File.aspx4. If the harassment is excessive, please contact a local lawyer that specializes in consumer law and they will take up your case.Reasons for complaints:Firm are conducting business practices? in breach of the Canadian collections act, as well as breaches of Canadian Privacy Law.Some of the breaches are as follows:Registration4.  (1)  No person shall carry on the business of a collection agency or act as a collector unless the person is registered by the Registrar under this Act. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.14, s. 4 (1).Name and place of business(2)  A registered collection agency shall not carry on business in a name other than the name in which it is registered or invite the public to deal at a place other than that authorized by the registration. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.14, s. 4 (2).Use of name to collect debts5.  No creditor shall deal with the debtor for payment of the debt except under the name in which the debt is lawfully owing or through a registered collection agency. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.14, s. 5.Conditions of registration(2)  A registration is subject to such terms and conditions to give effect to the purposes of this Act as are consented to by the applicant, imposed by the Tribunal or prescribed by the regulations. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.14, s. 6 (2).Notice requiring hearing(2)  A notice under subsection (1) shall state that the applicant or registrant is entitled to a hearing by the Tribunal if the applicant or registrant mails or delivers, within fifteen days after service of the notice under subsection (1), notice in writing requiring a hearing to the Registrar and the Tribunal, and the applicant or registrant may require such a hearing. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.14, s. 8 (2).Confidentiality17.  (1)  A person who obtains information in the course of exercising a power or carrying out a duty related to the administration of this Act or the regulations shall preserve secrecy with respect to the information and shall not communicate the information to any person except,Use of unregistered collection agency24.  (1)  No person shall knowingly engage or use the services of a collection agency that is not registered under this Act. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.14, s. 24 (1).Employment of unregistered collectors(2)  No collection agency shall employ a collector or appoint or authorize a collector to act on its behalf unless the collector is registered under this Act. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.14, s. 24 (2).False advertising25.  Where the Registrar believes on reasonable and probable grounds that a collection agency is making false, misleading or deceptive statements in any advertisement, circular, pamphlet or similar material, the Registrar may order the immediate cessation of the use of such material, and section 8 applies with necessary modifications to the order in the same manner as to a proposal by the Registrar to refuse registration and the order of the Registrar shall take effect immediately, but the Tribunal may grant a stay until the Registrar?s order becomes final. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.14, s. 25.Practices prohibited22.  No collection agency or collector shall,(a) collect or attempt to collect for a person for whom it acts any money in addition to the amount owing by the debtor;(b) communicate or attempt to communicate with a person for the purpose of collecting, negotiating or demanding payment of a debt by a means that enables the charges or costs of the communication to be payable by that person;(c) receive or make an agreement for the additional payment of any money by a debtor of a creditor for whom the collection agency acts, either on its own account or for the creditor and whether as a charge, cost, expense or otherwise, in consideration for any forbearance, favour, indulgence, intercession or other conduct by the collection agency;(d) deal with a debtor in a name other than that authorized by the registration; or(e) engage in any prohibited practice or employ any prohibited method in the collection of debts. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.14, s. 22; 2002, c. 18, Sched. E, s. 3 (1).

STOP CALLING ME...SOME LAW OFFICE SAYING IT IS URGENT AND ASKING FOR
SOMEBODY BY THE NAME OF "JOHN ALBERT"!!  There is NO John Albert who lives here!!!  I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FED UP WITH THOSE PEOPLE!